Dr. Jordan Peterson’s clinical license is being threatened by the Ontario College of Psychologists (CPO) unless he undergoes social media retraining. What do you think about this?
When you ask Orthodox inquirers in Northern European countries that have long abandoned their moral and spiritual anchors and have as a culture become Agnostic and Atheist the priest inquirers what brought you to Orthodoxy. The say Jordan Peterson. For that alone he is like one crying in the wilderness. What ever happened to the idea of virtue. He seems to connect with those that have no compass because he shows that you need a compass to live and prosper as a human. Its like a natural philosophy with religious underpinnings of understanding. I for one think that Canada has absolutely lost their way and they seem to want to walk down the aisle of suppressing free thought and speech with oppressive tactics of the State. He is in trouble because he does what Bishops do and should do and call the transition of gender dysphoria with surgery and drugs a sin against humanity. St Basel would have not held back nor should priest and Bishops as well. The woke tribe however would march against us and try to destroy our churches so they are attacking his credentials and his church of Academia and so that what we are left with a suppression of Academic freedom. There is no hegemony of leftist as a whole but they seem to attack virtue with a vengeance.
This strikes me too as likely political. Dr. Peterson's opinions seem to be well thought-through and honest, though they certainly clash with the politically correct "orthodoxy" (if you'll pardon the expression) of some elements of society. As a Canadian, like Peterson, I'm aware that anything I say in support of his right to freedom of expression could be taken out of context to support right wing political positions in the USA, positions which are, in large part, highly counterproductive to society as a whole. In any case, Dr. Peterson deserves to be heard on his own merits.
I worry about his over intellectualizing of Christianity, his interpretations of the crucifixion and other other Christian narratives are skewed through his practice.
I hope that people realize he’s not a professing Christian nor is he Orthodox. I think his takes can be interesting but they don’t necessarily speak for the faith.
It's hard not to be cynical and assume this is just about his politics and his lightning rod persona.
Canadians seem to equate politeness with kindness/empathy and Americans seem to equate rudeness with honesty. These conflations are both used to confuse people and advance various agendas.
Does he really need his clinical license anymore, anyway?
Whether or not he needs his license, for the government to take it away for speaking an unapproved opinion is an overreach of authority that needs to be opposed by all who prize freedom.
Further it is shocking to me that his need for his license was even raised as a valid consideration. Whatever happened to the idea that "I strongly disagree with your opinion but will fight to the death for your right to express it?"
And WHO exactly would have the nerve to give Jordan Peterson "social media retraining?" I can't help but laugh imagining some grad student or adjunct professor getting stuck with that job, because s/he'd get in a philosophical debate with Peterson and end up not knowing where s/he was. Does the Ontario College of Psychologists realize they're playing right into Dr. Peterson's hands with this action? To the layman, it looks like either sour grapes because Peterson's so popular OR like a disturbing dystopian attempt to cancel free thought...which it IS.
Your claim that " the internet is right now embroiled in discussion about viewpoints being purged" is unspecific and over generalized. The number of people involved is very limited to those who claim or pretend to know of something that turns out to be false, and or imaginary.
You advise me to "check out the conditions put to Pastor Artur Pawlowski just recently". I hate to sound like Jordan Peterson....excuse me Dr. Jordan Peterson...but what exactly do you mean by "just", what exactly do you mean by "recently", and what exactly do you mean by "just recently"? Sorry, within the past year, a lot has happened in the Pastor's life because he deliberately embarked on a unholy crusade full of lies against community health measurements in the Province of Alberta. So, he had to face legal consequences, but none of it involved "thought reduction" classes (I wish you would define this term), and the claim that he was in solitary confinement for 51 days can only be found in the sheer nonsense published by "alternative facts" media.
Now, could you please focus on the topic of Dr. Jordan Peterson, you know, that pop psychologist who now dabbles in pro Putin punditry.
In Canada, Christian pastors have been jailed and sent to "thought reeducation" classes as condition of parole, for preaching the Biblical case against gay marriage. During covid, church services were interrupted by RCMP who literally dragged pastors out and jailed them for not properly following the weekly changing regulations. They imprison pastors for feeding the homeless. One of Trudeau's first acts was to eliminate the Office of Religious Freedom. This is part of the background here. Peterson is logical, encouraging personal responsibility and freedom from enslavement to the passions, and increasingly engaging with the Biblical text itself. Although he is not a Christian, I think he is close enough that the government wants to destroy him.
This is a thread for honest conversation about this topic...
When you ask Orthodox inquirers in Northern European countries that have long abandoned their moral and spiritual anchors and have as a culture become Agnostic and Atheist the priest inquirers what brought you to Orthodoxy. The say Jordan Peterson. For that alone he is like one crying in the wilderness. What ever happened to the idea of virtue. He seems to connect with those that have no compass because he shows that you need a compass to live and prosper as a human. Its like a natural philosophy with religious underpinnings of understanding. I for one think that Canada has absolutely lost their way and they seem to want to walk down the aisle of suppressing free thought and speech with oppressive tactics of the State. He is in trouble because he does what Bishops do and should do and call the transition of gender dysphoria with surgery and drugs a sin against humanity. St Basel would have not held back nor should priest and Bishops as well. The woke tribe however would march against us and try to destroy our churches so they are attacking his credentials and his church of Academia and so that what we are left with a suppression of Academic freedom. There is no hegemony of leftist as a whole but they seem to attack virtue with a vengeance.
This strikes me too as likely political. Dr. Peterson's opinions seem to be well thought-through and honest, though they certainly clash with the politically correct "orthodoxy" (if you'll pardon the expression) of some elements of society. As a Canadian, like Peterson, I'm aware that anything I say in support of his right to freedom of expression could be taken out of context to support right wing political positions in the USA, positions which are, in large part, highly counterproductive to society as a whole. In any case, Dr. Peterson deserves to be heard on his own merits.
I like Dr. Peterson. He is one of the bread crumbs that led me to Orthodoxy.
I worry about his over intellectualizing of Christianity, his interpretations of the crucifixion and other other Christian narratives are skewed through his practice.
I hope that people realize he’s not a professing Christian nor is he Orthodox. I think his takes can be interesting but they don’t necessarily speak for the faith.
It's hard not to be cynical and assume this is just about his politics and his lightning rod persona.
Canadians seem to equate politeness with kindness/empathy and Americans seem to equate rudeness with honesty. These conflations are both used to confuse people and advance various agendas.
Does he really need his clinical license anymore, anyway?
If it's anything like other various totalitarian "re-education" programs, he should avoid it and retain legal counsel.
Whether or not he needs his license, for the government to take it away for speaking an unapproved opinion is an overreach of authority that needs to be opposed by all who prize freedom.
Further it is shocking to me that his need for his license was even raised as a valid consideration. Whatever happened to the idea that "I strongly disagree with your opinion but will fight to the death for your right to express it?"
And WHO exactly would have the nerve to give Jordan Peterson "social media retraining?" I can't help but laugh imagining some grad student or adjunct professor getting stuck with that job, because s/he'd get in a philosophical debate with Peterson and end up not knowing where s/he was. Does the Ontario College of Psychologists realize they're playing right into Dr. Peterson's hands with this action? To the layman, it looks like either sour grapes because Peterson's so popular OR like a disturbing dystopian attempt to cancel free thought...which it IS.
Your claim that " the internet is right now embroiled in discussion about viewpoints being purged" is unspecific and over generalized. The number of people involved is very limited to those who claim or pretend to know of something that turns out to be false, and or imaginary.
You advise me to "check out the conditions put to Pastor Artur Pawlowski just recently". I hate to sound like Jordan Peterson....excuse me Dr. Jordan Peterson...but what exactly do you mean by "just", what exactly do you mean by "recently", and what exactly do you mean by "just recently"? Sorry, within the past year, a lot has happened in the Pastor's life because he deliberately embarked on a unholy crusade full of lies against community health measurements in the Province of Alberta. So, he had to face legal consequences, but none of it involved "thought reduction" classes (I wish you would define this term), and the claim that he was in solitary confinement for 51 days can only be found in the sheer nonsense published by "alternative facts" media.
Now, could you please focus on the topic of Dr. Jordan Peterson, you know, that pop psychologist who now dabbles in pro Putin punditry.
I think that should pray for his salvation. I wonder... I don't think I should have more opinions than prayers...
In Canada, Christian pastors have been jailed and sent to "thought reeducation" classes as condition of parole, for preaching the Biblical case against gay marriage. During covid, church services were interrupted by RCMP who literally dragged pastors out and jailed them for not properly following the weekly changing regulations. They imprison pastors for feeding the homeless. One of Trudeau's first acts was to eliminate the Office of Religious Freedom. This is part of the background here. Peterson is logical, encouraging personal responsibility and freedom from enslavement to the passions, and increasingly engaging with the Biblical text itself. Although he is not a Christian, I think he is close enough that the government wants to destroy him.